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Black Widow
06-18-2008, 07:00 PM
Here's a news flash: The Rock is no more. It's not even Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson but merely Dwayne Johnson, plain vanilla, regular guy, would-be action-hero for the text-message set.

For us mere mortals, it's always slightly mystifying to watch celebrities and their names mutate. Madonna Ciccone to Madonna. Fabio Lanzoni to Fabio. Prince Rogers Nelson to Prince to The Artist formerly known as Prince to the unruly acronym TAFKAP.

And let's not forget Sean Combs, who seems to shuffle his handle with each new business incarnation. Just last week, he posted a bizarre video on You Tube, explaining that despite rumors to the contrary, he hadn't changed his name . . . again. Staring at the camera, he ranted, "But if I wanted to I could call myself anything I want because I have lived this life . . . By the way, I'm rich. . . . I would say that to any of my names."

A few years back, I was asked by a women's magazine to interview Jennifer Lopez (in her early J-Lo days) while she was getting a manicure. We were supposed to get them together in a totally faux-women's-bonding moment, but she came with a very large posse, and there weren't enough manicurists to go around. So they got their fingers buffed while I stood and watched. Anyway, it was around the time she was dating Combs, a.k.a. Puff Daddy, Puffy, P. Diddy, Diddy, Sean . . . I had no idea how to refer to him so settled for "your boyfriend." (I don't think Lopez noticed much -- she was busy ripping pages from a fashion magazine and handing them to an assistant/publicist/hanger-on and asking her to find the pictured item.)

OPTING for a solo one-word stage name is like grabbing for the brass ring in celebrity-dom. It's a naked bid for icon status, a way to brand yourself like Kleenex or Xerox or Liberace. Going the other direction, however, is rare. It connotes artistic seriousness and the versatility needed for true art. Dana Owens to Queen Latifah and back to Dana Owens (but only when she's singing jazz). Marky Mark to Mark Wahlberg. John Cougar to John Cougar Mellencamp to just John Mellencamp.

I asked Johnson about his moniker change recently, which is being touted in "Get Smart," where Johnson plays suave Agent 23, the ultimate in spies -- or in Johnson's rendition, a suavely amusing send-up of the über agent. I guess it's hard to take an actor seriously who bills himself as The Rock (The Rock stars in Hamlet!), and the former wrestler is clearly intent on transforming himself, if not into John Gielgud exactly, at least into a family-friendly movie star.

He recently jetted back from Las Vegas, where he'd been shooting the Disney remake of "Race to Witch Mountain," in which he plays a Vegas cabby charged with helping a pair of kids with paranormal powers escape to the Luxor, where they make gobs of money in 30 seconds flat. Just kidding. They actually are fleeing the usual array of government and alien evil-doers.

Johnson was perennially genial, though I suspect he keeps a Power Point presentation of his career plans in his head. "The Rock was a name, a character I created in TV. When I made the transition into film, I knew eventually I was going to be billed as my given name," he said via telephone. Real actors have real names, not just brand monikers. "I wanted the transition to happen naturally. Ten years ago [when he went into films and television], I didn't want to make an announcement or a statement, 'From this day forward, I'm an actor.' I didn't want to make a big deal about it. There was just a natural and easy way for the transition to happen."

Flash back 10 years, and Johnson was strutting around in black wrestling shorts, taunting opponents with his signature eyebrow move and boisterous trash talk. The seven-time WWE champion liked to refer to himself in the third person, as in "The Rock says," and add un-Disney-like comments such as "Keep bangin' on that door and The Rock's gonna lay the smack down on your candy ass."

Even then, "The Rock" wasn't his first incarnation. The 36-year-old, part African Canadian and part Samoan, had done a stint as a college football player for the Miami Hurricanes and had been a short-lived pro player for the Calgary Stampeders. He first tried wrestling under his given name, then with a stage name of Flex Kavana. He later morphed into a baby-faced good-guy wrestler called Rocky Maivia.

"My father and grandfather were professional wrestlers," Johnson said. "Rocky's my dad's first name, and Maivia was my grandfather's last name. The company thought it was a good idea to merge the two names together out of respect for my father and grandfather," and all the marketing possibilities.

IN 1998, Johnson dumped their names for The Rock, because, as he says, "I just wanted to make it on my own." He also tweaked his persona, changing into a mouthy bully as part of the "Nation of Domination." When the fans stopped ritualistically booing him, Johnson overhauled his act again. "My intent and goal was to inject humor in as many places as I could within the structure of the show. Humor was not a big part of that world. For me, the goal was never to be the biggest, loudest and toughest guy. The goal was to be the most entertaining."

He did anything he could think of to entertain his weekly audience of 20,000 to 30,000 live wrestling fans -- sing, operate the camera himself. "It got to a point where there was nothing I was not willing to try in front of a live audience. Sometimes I stank, and sometimes it was grand slams, and those balls still haven't come down."

Given his physique, Hollywood initially tried to send Johnson the action route, with such fare as "The Scorpion King" and "The Rundown." But times have changed since the '80s and '90s when he-men like Sylvester Stallone, Steven Seagal and Arnold Schwarzenegger strode the cinema colossus. Action heroes these days are sleek like Christian Bale or Will Smith or boyish like Tobey Maguire or smart like Robert Downey Jr.

One only has to look at the mess in Iraq to know that power -- and hugely defined muscles -- can't solve everything. Pure might has a hard time battling ingenuity and fanatical suicide bombers. In fact, it's hard to even look at muscles seriously these days, given the steroid scandals rocking professional sports. Today's action heroes tend to be comic-book heroes where the aesthetic tends to be boyish -- just like the fan base.

These days, killer pecs are an ironic accouterment best suited for comedies like "Get Smart" or family films because kids, unlike adults, still see giant men as powerful. Johnson's career exploded with last year's Disney flick "The Game Plan," a Mr. Mom-style comedy with Johnson as a vain professional football player doomed to care for a little girl. And Johnson, who has a 6-year-old daughter, seems perfectly content to be a Disney-style guy. No knocking the Mouse's brand appeal and marketing might.

After "Witch Mountain," he's donning wings to play the tooth fairy -- yes, the one that puts money under your pillow in exchange for molars and bicuspids in "Tooth Fairy." "With high-concept comedies like that, it's always about the collisions of worlds," Johnson says. In this case, it's a powerhouse of masculinity "being forced begrudgingly to become the tooth fairy."

JOHNSON talks about structuring his career like Tom Hanks or Will Smith, Everymen who appeal to all quadrants, but in truth, he most closely resembles Schwarzenegger, when he segued from "The Terminator" into "Twins" and "Kindergarten Cop." Indeed, Schwarzenegger himself once toyed with playing a version of the tooth fairy before bailing out for another arena ripe for self-re-creation, politics.

So I asked Johnson what he wanted people to call him, if they ever ran into the star while he's working out or having a cappuccino. Johnson isn't fussy like Edward Norton, who mandates that he is never, ever called Ed.

"They call me both," says Johnson. "Rock is a nickname, and it will always be. I'm fine with that. It sounds better than Cupcake."

rachel.abramowitz

latimes.com

JohnCenaFan28
06-18-2008, 07:27 PM
Thanks for the read.

LionDen
06-18-2008, 10:03 PM
Every new movie he makes he says he does not want to be called the Rock anymore lol A good read.


Real actors have real names, not just brand monikers.

lol Not always their original names but that is another matter.


I didn't want to make an announcement or a statement, 'From this day forward, I'm an actor.' I didn't want to make a big deal about it. There was just a natural and easy way for the transition to happen.

Considering he got hired cause he was so well known as The Rock and had millions of fans, he seems to forget how his moniker helped him along to where he is today.


Action heroes these days are sleek like Christian Bale or Will Smith or boyish like Tobey Maguire or smart like Robert Downey Jr

lol Funny shit.

Ill Will
06-19-2008, 12:14 AM
lol Not always their original names but that is another matter.Not always their real name, but a legitimate name nonetheless. What actors do you know who have names like "The Rock" who aren't in porn? He wants to be taken seriously as an actor, not as "that guy who used to be a wrestler".


Considering he got hired cause he was so well known as The Rock and had millions of fans, he seems to forget how his moniker helped him along to where he is today.
How does getting rid of his moniker suggest that he forget how it helped him? It's simply not logical to go by a fake name from pro wrestling when you're not a wrestler anymore. He's been exclusively acting now for almost as long as he was known as The Rock in pro wrestling, but he has amassed much more fame as an actor than he did as a wrestler. Essentially, "The Rock" was just a character that he played for several years on TV. It was his first acting gig. You wouldn't call him the name of any other character he played in one of his movies, just like you wouldn't call any other actor by the name of a character that they used to play.

I think the IWC as a whole needs to grow up and stop being bitter about this. Just because Hulk Hogan never started telling people to call him Terry Bollea after he left wrestling doesn't mean Dwayne Johnson is under some obligation to eternally be known as The Rock.

Punisher
06-19-2008, 03:12 AM
^ Do you always have to put people down for stating their opinions. I know i may be doing the same thing but you ALWAYS do it.

But i think that this is interesting that the Rock would almost try to destroy his whole past in wrestling for his acting career. The WWE fans made him who he is and he cant ever forget that. Wrestling is in his blood so there no way that he can just leave his heritage behind.

And Regardless of what you say you know that you are a bit fumed at the fact he doesn't want to called the rock anymore. Because if you see him in the mall one day you arent going to be like hey its Dwayne Johnson, you are going to say hey its The Rock.

LionDen
06-19-2008, 03:34 AM
Not always their real name, but a legitimate name nonetheless. What actors do you know who have names like "The Rock" who aren't in porn? He wants to be taken seriously as an actor, not as "that guy who used to be a wrestler".

I was making a little joke, hence the lol in my comment :shifty:

Ill Will
06-19-2008, 05:27 PM
^ Do you always have to put people down for stating their opinions. I know i may be doing the same thing but you ALWAYS do it.wtf? Where did I put anyone down? I disagreed. I didn't insult anyone or call anyone a name. Stop bullshitting.


But i think that this is interesting that the Rock would almost try to destroy his whole past in wrestling for his acting career. The WWE fans made him who he is and he cant ever forget that.What is with this common delusion that he's trying to "destroy his whole past" or that he's forgetting where he came from? The Rock was a character that Dwayne Johnson portrayed. Why the hell should he continue to go by that name if he doesn't play the character anymore? I could see if that was the name of a character he was still playing in a movie or show or something (which obviously wouldn't happen since WWE has a copyright), but he's not. He no longer has ties to that name, or the character behind it.

If you saw Toby McGuire walking down the street, would you yell out, "Hey Spiderman!" No, you wouldn't, unless you're 5.


Wrestling is in his blood so there no way that he can just leave his heritage behind.lol, looks like he already has. Maybe that's something that you couldn't do, but Dwayne doesn't seem to have much of a problem doing it.


And Regardless of what you say you know that you are a bit fumed at the fact he doesn't want to called the rock anymore. Because if you see him in the mall one day you arent going to be like hey its Dwayne Johnson, you are going to say hey its The Rock.You obviously don't know me that well. I would, in fact, recognize him as Dwayne Johnson, the guy who portrayed The Rock, along with many other characters now. I'm not at all "fumed" that an ex-pro wrestler wants to be known by his real name. You shouldn't assume that I think like you.


I was making a little joke, hence the lol in my comment :shifty:

"lol Not always their original names but that is another matter."

...what part of that was the joke?

Punisher
06-19-2008, 11:22 PM
If you saw Toby McGuire walking down the street, would you yell out, "Hey Spiderman!" No, you wouldn't, unless you're 5.

That is exactly what I would do. Obviously you dont know me very well.

And about the put downs your last post was exactly what I am talking about. you took every sentence of my response. Every single sentence you that you have a slight disagreement to you just throw it down and take the negative aspects of it out. But I am wasting my time becasue you are to singleminded to vconsider anyone elses opinions but your own.

Ill Will
06-20-2008, 12:59 AM
That is exactly what I would do. Obviously you dont know me very well.Well, most people wouldn't. Most people recognize Hollywood actors by their actual names, not the characters they play in movies.

Consider yourself an enigma.


And about the put downs your last post was exactly what I am talking about. you took every sentence of my response. Every single sentence you that you have a slight disagreement to you just throw it down and take the negative aspects of it out. But I am wasting my time becasue you are to singleminded to vconsider anyone elses opinions but your own.
I'm sorry for mistaking this place for a discussion board. Please forgive me. I guess it happened because I'm too "singleminded".

Replying to someone's post does not equate to putting them down. I disagreed with you (which, for what I can remember, isn't against the rules) and I explained why I said what I said. Calling that a "put down" is nothing more than you trying to divert the topic. You don't have to continue the discussion if you don't want to, but don't start making shit up about me just because you have nothing relevant to add to the thread.

Punisher
06-20-2008, 04:01 AM
Well it was obvious that you werent paying attention becasue im so sure that most people call actors by their actual names if their role is who made them. Honestly i didnt even know Spidermans name until you decided to tell me it. Im so sure if you saw shawn michaels in the mall you would call him michael higgenbottom. Or if you saw the Undertaker you would call him Marc Calloway. Its the same with the rock when you see him you will be like"its the rock, crap whats his name again?" same with sting not going to call him steve bordon.

Ill Will
06-22-2008, 10:05 PM
Well it was obvious that you werent paying attention becasue im so sure that most people call actors by their actual names if their role is who made them. Honestly i didnt even know Spidermans name until you decided to tell me it.I have never met anyone who does this. People who actually pay attention to the movie they are watching will know the name of main actor. Like I said, you're...different. Of all of the people over the age of like 10 who have seen the Spiderman movies, almost all of them know that Toby McGuire played Spiderman.

I was using the most generic example possible, and it still managed to go over your head.



Im so sure if you saw shawn michaels in the mall you would call him michael higgenbottom. Or if you saw the Undertaker you would call him Marc Calloway. Its the same with the rock when you see him you will be like"its the rock, crap whats his name again?" same with sting not going to call him steve bordon.

You know the difference between Dwayne Johnson and all of those wrestlers you just mentioned? THEY'RE ALL STILL ACTIVE WRESTLERS!!!, and they've all only been widely known as wrestlers, which makes them horrible examples. The point was that Dwayne hasn't wrestled in over 4 years, and has been doing only movies since then.

Nightblade
06-22-2008, 10:38 PM
I have no problem with him changing his name, I liked him a lot, but he wants a new identity...he wants to move on from his former career and pursue a new one.

Punisher
06-23-2008, 05:01 AM
Dude Im done with you. You are so annoying thinking that you are above everyone else. Not that i said this go ahead and go on another rant about it. See if i care becase no one even gives a crap about what you have to say anymore. I tried to let you kno wwhat you were doing iand you made it into a huge seen. I made one comment about your put downs and you act like its the end of the world. grow up and get over your self.

Ill Will
06-24-2008, 07:11 AM
Dude Im done with you. You are so annoying thinking that you are above everyone else. Not that i said this go ahead and go on another rant about it. See if i care becase no one even gives a crap about what you have to say anymore. I tried to let you kno wwhat you were doing iand you made it into a huge seen. I made one comment about your put downs and you act like its the end of the world. grow up and get over your self.

Where have I once acted like I was above anyone? I disagreed with you and backed up my opinion. I never went on any "rant", as a matter of fact, it was quite the opposite. You started going completely off topic talking about "put downs" and whatnot. Like I said before, if you don't have anything relevant to add, or have any rebuttal to back up what you're saying, than just stop, but don't make shit up about me. It's making you look foolish.

I'm not acting like it's the end of the world or making a huge seen, I'm replying to your post. This is generally what people to at discussion boards.

Punisher
06-24-2008, 07:43 AM
i can name one post right now where you did the same thing to Rob in a thread that WAS A JOKE, you had a to make it serious MAFRE studios in rants check it before you say i make stuff up

Ill Will
06-25-2008, 11:03 PM
i can name one post right now where you did the same thing to Rob in a thread that WAS A JOKE, you had a to make it serious MAFRE studios in rants check it before you say i make stuff up

First of all, THAT WAS IN RANTS, where insults and flaming ("put downs") are allowed.

Secondly, that's a horrible example because I didn't make anything serious or act like I was above anyone. If you actually read the entire thread (which you obviously haven't, or either you grossly misunderstood me), you'd see that I knew very well it was a joke, I just didn't think it was funny, along with Kellie, among others. Nothing in that thread supports any of the claims you are making in this one, which is where I was asking for an example from.