Kemo
11-09-2015, 08:49 PM
Jim Ross wrote a new FOX website piece regarding the infamous Montreal Screwjob that took place 18 years ago today at the November 9, 1997 WWE Survivor Series event. One of the misconceptions Ross addressed was the belief that he and Jerry Lawler knew how the Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels main event would play out.
Here is his article from FOX Sports:
It's been 18 years since the infamous "Montreal Screw Job," involving Bret Hart , Shawn Michaels and, seemingly, a cast of thousands went down in Montreal.
The finish of the title bout main event on Nov. 9, 1997, at Molson Centre was decided covertly and without the WWE Champion, The Hitman's, knowledge resulting in a new champion and the never-ending questions and submissions, like this one, to debate what actually went down and what is fact and what is fiction. Let's address a few of those:
Misconception: It was said that the finish of the match was discussed in the Saturday night production meeting held at the Montreal Marriott Hotel. That's not true. We went over the show for approximately three, insufferable hours but only discussed the time that the match would need, who would be introduced first, and other general production elements regarding the match. The finish was "still being discussed" we were told and that it would be finalized with Bret and Shawn on Sunday at the arena.
I was under thel impression that the match was going to end via a disqualification therefore Hart would retain the title, even though he had finalized a contract to take his considerable skills to Atlanta and WCW for a ground-breaking, massive-money contact.
At that time, I was the head of talent relations and managed the talent roster many of whom would need plenty of counsel post-"Screw Job." Dr Drew and Dr. Phil had nothing on me in November 1997, especially.
Bulging biceps can't fend off paranoia and insecurities that a profession athletes and performers are plagued with on multiple fronts. There are as many "Divas" in the NFL as there are on reality TV. But I digress.
Misconception: The plan had been established and finalized long in advance. Not true. Vince McMahon had wrestled with the decision to take the title from Bret without Bret's knowledge or cooperation to protect the WWE from the title showing up on WCW TV. After the production meeting concluded, all three hours of it, we finally got out of there, grabbed some food, had a beverage or two and, for some of us, to partake in the hideous habit of smoking a cigarette. As we exited the room, Vince asked agent and long time confidant Jerry Brisco to stay behind and that Vince and Brisco needed to talk. I am under the impression that it was at that two-man sit down where the plans were refined as to what had to be done on Sunday night.
Misconception: Fans informed The Wrestling Observer and Pro Wrestling Torch, among many other sites, that when Pat Patterson, who was not told of the dirty deed, and myself appeared from the production meeting that he and I looked troubled, upset and visually "forlorn." We did not talk about anything controversial in the production meeting but it was so damn long that the smokers in the room and those that were in need of a cocktail or were hungry were ready for the meeting to end after an hour much less three. It's like watching the three-hour, live Monday Night Raw broadcasts on USA Network and that would be "challenging" for many, including yours truly. DVR saves the day.
(P.S. I am proud to say that I quit smoking, cold turkey almost two years ago and it was the best thing that I've done for my health but I digress, again.)
So Patterson and I had a 'forlorn' look on our faces because we needed a smoke and some alcohol and not because we were conflicted over the Montreal Screw Job.
Misconception: J.R. and Jerry Lawler knew the finish and what was occurring. They were going to be a party to in as much as it was going to be the soundtrack that would accompany the video of the fateful night for time and memorial. Not so fast my friends. The King and I were working off the Saturday night production meeting finish, which was simply described as going to be a "DQ." Who or why was not discussed and it did not affect Jerry or me in our prep and our presentation of broadcasting the bout. So the truth of the matter is that neither of us knew was was gong to transpire in the main event.
Not knowing the minutia of a match including all the nuances of the finish was commonplace for the King and I. We felt that we did a better job when we called the matches like a sporting event and the less we knew about the endings, etc the more natural and spontaneous we could make it.
Being the Head of Talent Relations as EVP of the department, I was upset that McMahon had not confided in me of his covert actions.
"I wanted to keep you clean of this matter," he told me then. "You have to continue to communicate and support the talent roster and they have to trust you. You knew nothing on-purpose because you can honestly tell each and every one of them how you feel about what went down and be honest with them and that you did not know. Your role in restoring a productive and professional locker room is going to be a challenge we have to meet." the WWE Chairman told me.
While I understand Vince's logic and it makes a great deal of sense but there we still plenty of issues convincing the talents of that they could trust me and that I was there to listen and to help them. Thank goodness that this was during the pre-smart phone world, which lessened the insanity. Most of my work was done in-person and not via phone, text, etc. There may be a message there we can all use today when it comes to being so dependent on our gadgets and not our our ability to look a person in the eye and get to the hear t of the matter.
I'm of the mindset that there are still those in the internet wrestling community that totally believe that I was in on the planning, but I hate to disappoint them but I'm clean on this one.
At the end of the day how many lives did this pro wrestling incident adversely affect to any significant degree? The WWE, with McMahon becoming one of the greatestst of any generation and the perfect foil to play opposite the perfect, anti-establishment rebel in Stone Cold Steve Austin. With Mr. McMahon becoming the straw that stirred the villain's drinks in WWE the company got red-hot again thanks to Austin, the leadership of The Undertaker and others, a young stud named The Rock and a lockerroom full of hungry talents that created an amazingly productive work environment. So out of Montreal seemed to have come a win for the WWE.
What about Bret Hart? Well, he signed a purported three-year contract with a $3 million annual salary from deep pocketed WCW but a concussion and subsequent health issues including a stroke ended Bret's in-ring career. Nonetheless does the biggest contract the Canadian great signed actually count as a loss in the Montreal fall ut? That's a debatable point. There's no debate that WCW botched the Hitman's tenure there creatively and never got the Calgary native close to being the star that he was in WWE the entire three-plus years Bret was in WCW.
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Here is his article from FOX Sports:
It's been 18 years since the infamous "Montreal Screw Job," involving Bret Hart , Shawn Michaels and, seemingly, a cast of thousands went down in Montreal.
The finish of the title bout main event on Nov. 9, 1997, at Molson Centre was decided covertly and without the WWE Champion, The Hitman's, knowledge resulting in a new champion and the never-ending questions and submissions, like this one, to debate what actually went down and what is fact and what is fiction. Let's address a few of those:
Misconception: It was said that the finish of the match was discussed in the Saturday night production meeting held at the Montreal Marriott Hotel. That's not true. We went over the show for approximately three, insufferable hours but only discussed the time that the match would need, who would be introduced first, and other general production elements regarding the match. The finish was "still being discussed" we were told and that it would be finalized with Bret and Shawn on Sunday at the arena.
I was under thel impression that the match was going to end via a disqualification therefore Hart would retain the title, even though he had finalized a contract to take his considerable skills to Atlanta and WCW for a ground-breaking, massive-money contact.
At that time, I was the head of talent relations and managed the talent roster many of whom would need plenty of counsel post-"Screw Job." Dr Drew and Dr. Phil had nothing on me in November 1997, especially.
Bulging biceps can't fend off paranoia and insecurities that a profession athletes and performers are plagued with on multiple fronts. There are as many "Divas" in the NFL as there are on reality TV. But I digress.
Misconception: The plan had been established and finalized long in advance. Not true. Vince McMahon had wrestled with the decision to take the title from Bret without Bret's knowledge or cooperation to protect the WWE from the title showing up on WCW TV. After the production meeting concluded, all three hours of it, we finally got out of there, grabbed some food, had a beverage or two and, for some of us, to partake in the hideous habit of smoking a cigarette. As we exited the room, Vince asked agent and long time confidant Jerry Brisco to stay behind and that Vince and Brisco needed to talk. I am under the impression that it was at that two-man sit down where the plans were refined as to what had to be done on Sunday night.
Misconception: Fans informed The Wrestling Observer and Pro Wrestling Torch, among many other sites, that when Pat Patterson, who was not told of the dirty deed, and myself appeared from the production meeting that he and I looked troubled, upset and visually "forlorn." We did not talk about anything controversial in the production meeting but it was so damn long that the smokers in the room and those that were in need of a cocktail or were hungry were ready for the meeting to end after an hour much less three. It's like watching the three-hour, live Monday Night Raw broadcasts on USA Network and that would be "challenging" for many, including yours truly. DVR saves the day.
(P.S. I am proud to say that I quit smoking, cold turkey almost two years ago and it was the best thing that I've done for my health but I digress, again.)
So Patterson and I had a 'forlorn' look on our faces because we needed a smoke and some alcohol and not because we were conflicted over the Montreal Screw Job.
Misconception: J.R. and Jerry Lawler knew the finish and what was occurring. They were going to be a party to in as much as it was going to be the soundtrack that would accompany the video of the fateful night for time and memorial. Not so fast my friends. The King and I were working off the Saturday night production meeting finish, which was simply described as going to be a "DQ." Who or why was not discussed and it did not affect Jerry or me in our prep and our presentation of broadcasting the bout. So the truth of the matter is that neither of us knew was was gong to transpire in the main event.
Not knowing the minutia of a match including all the nuances of the finish was commonplace for the King and I. We felt that we did a better job when we called the matches like a sporting event and the less we knew about the endings, etc the more natural and spontaneous we could make it.
Being the Head of Talent Relations as EVP of the department, I was upset that McMahon had not confided in me of his covert actions.
"I wanted to keep you clean of this matter," he told me then. "You have to continue to communicate and support the talent roster and they have to trust you. You knew nothing on-purpose because you can honestly tell each and every one of them how you feel about what went down and be honest with them and that you did not know. Your role in restoring a productive and professional locker room is going to be a challenge we have to meet." the WWE Chairman told me.
While I understand Vince's logic and it makes a great deal of sense but there we still plenty of issues convincing the talents of that they could trust me and that I was there to listen and to help them. Thank goodness that this was during the pre-smart phone world, which lessened the insanity. Most of my work was done in-person and not via phone, text, etc. There may be a message there we can all use today when it comes to being so dependent on our gadgets and not our our ability to look a person in the eye and get to the hear t of the matter.
I'm of the mindset that there are still those in the internet wrestling community that totally believe that I was in on the planning, but I hate to disappoint them but I'm clean on this one.
At the end of the day how many lives did this pro wrestling incident adversely affect to any significant degree? The WWE, with McMahon becoming one of the greatestst of any generation and the perfect foil to play opposite the perfect, anti-establishment rebel in Stone Cold Steve Austin. With Mr. McMahon becoming the straw that stirred the villain's drinks in WWE the company got red-hot again thanks to Austin, the leadership of The Undertaker and others, a young stud named The Rock and a lockerroom full of hungry talents that created an amazingly productive work environment. So out of Montreal seemed to have come a win for the WWE.
What about Bret Hart? Well, he signed a purported three-year contract with a $3 million annual salary from deep pocketed WCW but a concussion and subsequent health issues including a stroke ended Bret's in-ring career. Nonetheless does the biggest contract the Canadian great signed actually count as a loss in the Montreal fall ut? That's a debatable point. There's no debate that WCW botched the Hitman's tenure there creatively and never got the Calgary native close to being the star that he was in WWE the entire three-plus years Bret was in WCW.
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