From what I read Dana said after an event not long ago, it wouldn't be lowering anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeMo
Shane doesn't have to last long. Ask anyone that works for WWE; The second you've bought a PPV, they can have a 5-second match or a 2-hour match, & they get the $ either way.
Vince doesn't want anything to do with UFC; That was Shane's interest.
vince tried to buy pride
he was interested in mma
I don't recall ever reading about an attempted purchase of an MMA company, or interest by anyone other than Shane (& a few wrestlers that went to events, etc.).Quote:
Originally Posted by macmichaud2
this was awhile ago
not recent
Probably before my fandom. But as I said, all the interest I read in connecting WWE with UFC was Shane. Makes me wonder about this, especially since Shane left at the start of the year, & a lot of people were guessing as to why, if he actually left, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by macmichaud2
i think it was like 3 4 years or so
i cant remember
Talking about checking the facts. I think you should do some fact checking of your own. You come onto this thread saying what you say to people, then you go back into it. For a minute, I thought you were trying to make valid arguments, then I read the rest of your posts, and you're nothing more than a fanboy wanting to see WWE wrestling in a UFC octagon. Here is a column from MMAWeekly from 2006, I highlighted the WWE stuff so you can get to the WWE parts:Quote:
Originally Posted by TJChurch
Dream Stage Entertainment is taking part in ongoing negotiations with several different companies based in several different countries to sell Pride, according to a report in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter.
Among the companies with which DSE has had talks are the Ultimate Fighting Championship, World Wrestling Entertainment, and multiple companies in both the United States and South Korea that were not named in the article, which further stated that the majority of the interest that has been shown in purchasing Pride has come from outside of Japan.
The crux of the Observer article is that it is necessary for DSE to eventually sell the company because while the company can continue to put on mega-shows like the December 31st show in the short term, Pride at its current level is simply not a sustainable business model over the long run without the all-important Japanese TV deal.
Fuji TV cancelled its contract and removed Pride from its network earlier this year due to company scandals, even though Pride's 2005 New Year's Eve show won the head-to-head ratings battle with the K-1 New Year's Eve show for the first time.
Fuji TV was much more than just a TV outlet for Pride, as Fuji also paid the company millions of dollars and provided it with valuable promotional exposure. Pride has been unable to secure a new TV deal with any other major network in Japan.
The DSE-owned Pride will continue to aggressively expand into the U.S. marketplace, add big-name fighters to its roster if given the opportunity, and continue to run shows in Japan. While it remains possible that a huge explosion in popularity or a Japanese TV deal could change the situation, neither of those two things are particularly likely to occur, and this would likely make it necessary for DSE to sell the company to new ownership if things don't turn around in the next year or so.
If Pride were to be purchased by World Wrestling Entertainment, it is not a stretch to say that it would be unlikely to succeed. Putting aside any fears that WWE would be tempted to fix fights, there's also the well-documented fact that WWE Chairman Vince McMahon has never displayed competence in any business outside of his core business of pro wrestling, with unsuccessful business ventures in nutritional supplements (IcoPro), a bodybuilding league (WBF), the movie industry (WWE Films), reality television production (Manhunt, Tough Enough, WWE Diva Search), a professional football league (XFL), the book industry (WWE's self-published novels in which McMahon solves crimes), and yes, even promoting legitimate shoot-fights on national television (Brawl for All).
The Observer article noted that Zuffa is faced with a strategic choice. If the UFC bought Pride and inherited what the Observer referred to as Pride's "very high contracts," Zuffa would acquire lots of world-class MMA fighters, but the move would raise the UFC's salary structure and "up the ante greatly" in terms of the amount of money that the company spends on fighter contracts.
If, on the other hand, Zuffa were to sit back and take a different kind of risk by letting the situation play itself out, the ideal scenario for Zuffa would be that Pride would eventually go out of business (or whoever buys Pride would fail with it and go under), thus making all of Pride's fighters free agents.
This would enable Zuffa to pay a lot less for the fighters than they would otherwise have to, because at that point there would be a very large amount of free agent fighters and only two stable, big-money options available for those fighters (UFC and K-1), although upstarts like BodogFight have managed to lure Fedor Emelianenko away, at least for one fight.
As the Observer reported, in the latter scenario Zuffa would be able to "work at signing only the people they want with the ability to negotiate more favorable terms [for Zuffa] due to the only other option [for the fighters] being K-1, which generally doesn't pay at Pride's level." In this scenario, with Pride's entire roster as free agents, the top-level fighters would likely end up split primarily between the UFC and K-1.
In the face of all the speculation, Pride broadcaster Frank Trigg appeared on MMAWeekly Radio's SoundOff and denied outright that Pride was for sale. Trigg said, "Two major organizations offered to buy Pride and both answers were no. They were both very substantial offers." Trigg was adamant as he said, "[DSE President] Sakakibara does not want to sell Pride. Pride is not up for sale. I spoke with him earlier today. Are we trying to do cross-promotions with other people? Absolutely... [but] Pride is not up for sale."
The Observer reported in its initial article that DSE's senior management will continue to act like "everything is status quo" and will continue to tell company employees that the company is not going to be sold.
Regardless of how the situation with Pride plays out, the Observer reports that Zuffa is planning on getting "very aggressive" when it comes to signing top talent.
The only thing for certain is that in the ever-changing landscape of MMA, only time will tell.
I "come onto it saying what I say, & hen go back into it"? Guess if you don't speak English, you never have to fact-check.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeMo
If you want me to know info, tell me where I might want to look. If I decide I want to look, I will. Otherwise, I won't. Also, I say again it's not facts for the most part, solely opinion (same as many of the members here).
And never EVER post about what you think I want to see, as you clearly don't know.
Apparently, neither do you.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJChurch
Ya know, since your into fantasy wrestling, you should check out our fantasy league. There you can pretend Shane fights Brock and people care.
I know exactly what I want, & if you read my posts absent of preconceived notions, you might as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeMo
Maybe you should stick to the fantasy area. That way, none of it's real, so it doesn't matter if you understand what anyone says or not.
You're not a very smart kid, are you? You clearly have lost this battle. There no need to keep going. Now it seems kinda pathetic, and they'e all laughing at you. Besides, you're getting into a flame war with a staff member. Go get a drink of water, walk in a circle, smoke something. Chill.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJChurch
I'm highly intelligent, & if you disagree, that's another thing you're incorrect about where I am concerned. Also, there was no battle, & therefore no loss. I don't know or care who might be laughing at me. As for you, it's b/c of your positioning as staff nobody will say anything against you, but they probably read some posts, & laugh at them. (Again, don't know or care.) I'm perfectly "chilled", but it'd be better for this thread to stay on-topic, so that's all that need be said.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeMo
No. People don't need to fear me because I'm staff. They know and trust me because I am a member of the UOW family, and I am senior member they respect. I have been on topic. I have posted FACTS that you apparently don't want to read or care about. Thats fine. But you keep coming back here posting comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJChurch
I'm closing this thread due to flaming. If you continue to flame around the board like I've seen you do, I will send you packing. This time for good.
The problem is gone. Thread reopened. Feel free to get back on topic. :kemo:
....So yes it could be due to working with UFC and it could be a good move because he could make UFC even bigger but alot of die hard MMA fans probably wont like it.
ya the older guys wont like it thinking dana
is trying to turn it into more sports entertainment
but shane is a marketing whiz and also can help get ufc events
in places they have been trying to get like MSG