Quote Originally Posted by Psychedelic
Ahem, if the earth and universe can not be self existant then why is it that god is self existant? Who created god? Why is it god can just be and everything else can not. And who says there has to be an afterlife, we are the only beings I'd say that believe in a god or afterlife because our minds are complex enough to think it up or create it. I think god is a figment of our own imagination. If there is an afterlife for humans, then is there one for animals, plants, or even bacteria? Because they are all living things and surely they dont worship a god. I think humans are the only ones smart enough or dare I say stupid enough to base their life around a supernatural being or afterlife that they can not prove. Why follow guidlines that you have no proof gives the results you expect. I believe religion is a wonderful way of controling people, controling their actions, their beliefs, way of life. Hell religion and "god" causes people to actually take the lives of others, how rational is that? Religion is irrational thinking by irrational minds and no I do not believe there is a god and until god or anyone else can prove me wrong I will always think that. If there is a god and I rot in hell when I die, so be it but hell on the other hand is another way of control. A place where you burn and suffer for all eternity, creative way to scare primitive minds long ago into doing what you want. Into behaving. Religion= control nothing more.
look, now you said that bacteria and plants and animals doesnt beielve god, how do you know, do u speak with them? No... let me tell u something have you ever heard of sulieman? he is one of god messengers... and he speaks with animal.. he was sent to fight a tribe but there ants infront of him.. sulieman heard some.. noises saying 'ants go to your homes' sulieman heard that and then he watched the ants.. he talked to them.. this is when sulieman knew he talk to animals.. why ? so he can tell them warnings etc.. who knows.. now what ya say....???

and for after life.. ok u have a piont.. i die, there is an after life now the question is.. is there an after life after my second life.. how does life end... what like being another person or an animal who knows ...