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    Oh and out of flamesoffurry's list, the only guy on that list who is better right now (not in the past, but right now) than Samoa Joe is HHH, and that is only based on looking at the total package.

    On a scale of 1-10:
    Ring Ability:
    Joe 8
    HHH 3

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    Joe 5
    HHH 8

    Acting:
    Joe 4
    HHH 8

    But I believe if he was put in WWE and given the big push, Joe could become the next Rock. He doesn't have the same charismatic talent the Rock had, but he has the ring skills Rocky never had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxvic View Post
    Oh and out of flamesoffurry's list, the only guy on that list who is better right now (not in the past, but right now) than Samoa Joe is HHH, and that is only based on looking at the total package.

    On a scale of 1-10:
    Ring Ability:
    Joe 8
    HHH 3

    Mic:
    Joe 5
    HHH 8

    Acting:
    Joe 4
    HHH 8

    But I believe if he was put in WWE and given the big push, Joe could become the next Rock. He doesn't have the same charismatic talent the Rock had, but he has the ring skills Rocky never had.

    Ok, no way. Triple H is NOT a 3 in ring skills. He is so much better than Samoa Joe.

    As for your other post, the x-division people are better than the cruiserweights, granted, but they aren't better than ANYONE in the wwe like you said. Shawn Michaels, Triple H, and Edge are just three people who destroy the x-division people.

    Kane is so much better than Abyss. Whenever Kane fights, it is always entertaining (although better when he had his mask). Abyss is a bore to watch, and he isn't that great of an in ring performer.

    As for Samoa Joe, I don't think WWE would push him as much as you think they would. He would have come from TNA, being a big star there, and I can't see WWE pushing someone made by the competition. I mean, look at Booker. He came from WCW how long ago, and, even though he is main event quality, has only had one world title reign in the wwe (after being forced to pick up the worst gimmick ever to get it).

    You have a stong TNA bias it seems, but that doesn't mean you can say that everyone has to agree they have better talent. Cause they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy View Post

    As for Samoa Joe, I don't think WWE would push him as much as you think they would. He would have come from TNA, being a big star there, and I can't see WWE pushing someone made by the competition. I mean, look at Booker. He came from WCW how long ago, and, even though he is main event quality, has only had one world title reign in the wwe (after being forced to pick up the worst gimmick ever to get it).

    You have a stong TNA bias it seems, but that doesn't mean you can say that everyone has to agree they have better talent. Cause they don't.
    Okay, i'm not as big a TNA fan as WWE but I have to say Booker is an appauling wrestler, someone like Styles would carry him through a match however TNA hasn't got the up and comming stars that WWE has, look at Jonny Nitro, Kenny Dykstra, Burke and Kennedy TNA had that back when it became mainstream with Daniels, Styles and Sabin but truthfully which superstars have TNA got that started with them and are being pushed??
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    man wwe has way more talent, its not even funny. We haven't even mentioned MVP who [might] become the next U.S. Champ
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    You honestly think HBK is better in the ring than Samoa Joe? You've only seen his TNA matches then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxvic View Post
    You honestly think HBK is better in the ring than Samoa Joe? You've only seen his TNA matches then.
    I've seen Joe vs Punk 1. I haven't watched 2 or 3 yet...I keep forgetting. He's good, but, he's not the best.
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    they don't need talent. Most of the new fans don't know the different between the Sharshooter and Scorpian deathlock. All they care about is being entertained by gimmicks and storylines. WWE won't be getting mor talented guys or using the ones they have until the fans, the majority of them, start demanding it.
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    AJ Styles rated number 1 wrestling in 2006? By who? Please, I like the guy and appreciate his athletics but don't kid yourself.

    One look at this topic's title and I knew TNA would be mentioned within 10 words. Ugh, just ugh.



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    Agreed - Abyss is the only guy in TNA who could really make it and thats cos of his size and ability to contest compelling brawls. AJ does have some mike skills as a heel but he's too small to be taken seriously in WWE - he'd probably get a token run with the Cruiserweight belt and be forced to tone down his ring style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy View Post
    I disagree with: Super Crazy (not talented, a pain to watch) and Edge (he is on smackdown now). As much as it may pain a lot of people to admit, Cena has been putting out good matches lately and entertaining everyone, and he deserves to be on this list a whole lot more than several people on the lists.



    I disagree with the following: Shannon Moore (haven't seen him do anything noteworth in so long), Jimmy Yang (lame gimmick and hasn't proven himself), Chavo Guerrero (he is nothing special), Jamie Noble (when was the last time he was even on the show?), and JBL (he doesn't wrestle).



    I disagree with: Matt Striker (bad wrestler, worse gimmick), Little Guido (being good for a squash match doesn't mean he's talented), and Mike Knox (he was painful to watch for months, bad wrestler, bad on the mic, and now, thankfully, he's not on the show). Stevie Richards does have talent though, and he didn't make your list...

    How I see it, that makes the numbers: 10 for RAW, 10 for Smackdown, and 6 for ECW.
    Actually, I wasn't basing it of what they did on the show. I was basing off their wrestling IN GENERAL. Also, Matt Striker is a great wrestler, Guido is (go check out his old matches with Tajiri and Crazy to see what I mean) and Knox is getting good. HIs matches with CM Punk were awesome. Also, pretty much all of the guys you took off my SD list are great wrestlers, including JBL. Even if they're not on the show a lot, they're still good. Also, I think Chavo is just as good, or even BETTER, then his uncle eddie was. He matches with Benoit a while back were all classics, and his matches with Rey were amazing. And yes, I did leave Stevie off, lol. Not on prpose, lol.

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