TNA‘s Matt Hardy says his brother Jeff Hardy is slowly transitioning away from in-ring wrestling.

In the latest episode of his Extreme Life of Matt Hardy podcast, the former Tag Team Champion, who recently turned 52, addressed questions about his retirement. He said he and Jeff Hardy faced issues in AEW and feel TNA is a better fit. He doesn’t have a timetable for when he’ll stop wrestling and hopes to perform as long as he’s physically able.

“Jeff and I had some frustrations while on AEW. Right now, TNA is a much better fit for us. Coming back to TNA, I think it rejuvenated both of our love for pro wrestling and being able to contribute. I think at AEW there were issues, especially with Jeff. Jeff had his problems and his mistakes, and just from that, I don’t know if we ever rebounded from that,” Matt Hardy began.

“So, I mean, never say never, at the end of the day. That’s one thing I have truly learned in pro wrestling and especially in life. You never know where you’re going to end up, and don’t ever say I’m never going to do this because you end up being a hypocrite sooner rather than later. That happens to everybody. You never know where the twists and turns of life are going to take you,” Hardy continued. “But yes, I do feel like I’m not putting any bookend on my wrestling career now. I’m not putting any end timetable. I’m just going by how I feel."

Speaking further, Matt Hardy said his brother is slowly transitioning away from in-ring competition to a full-time music career. However, he considers him a lifer and hopes to have a backstage role after he hangs up his boots.

“And I almost feel Jeff is all into music now, and he had a really successful outing at that Louder than Life Festival that he did, and he loved it so much. And I know he would really love to try and pursue wrestling. He’s trying to back off of actual in-ring wrestling bookings now and do more music. He still likes doing appearances and cons and everything else. He still wants to be very fully committed to TNA, but Jeff is working on that transition a little bit too,” Matt Hardy said.

“I think me, on the other hand, I will transition into a backstage role when it’s all said and done. I’m pretty sure Jeff maybe not so much, but I’m a lifer when it comes to wrestling just because I’m so passionate about pro wrestling and just the art form in so many ways. I want to do it as long as I can in the ring, and then, whenever I can’t do it in the ring, I’ll be outside the ring trying to coach others, be creative, and give guys input and ideas. I feel like that’s where I’m at,” Matt Hardy went on.

“But as of right now, I feel really good. And while I feel really good, I’m going to keep doing what I love. I’d be silly not to. I do (if he feels the bug every time he enters the ring). One thing I always think about is if I never sleep good, or I’m tired, or I don’t feel well, whatever, I want to get in the ring, wrestle, and get that done because there’s no better feeling than after you get out of the ring and you get a good sweat, and the adrenaline’s kicking in,” Hardy continued.

“It’s crazy. That puts you on a whole another level. And that’s one of the things I feel that is so rewarding about pro wrestling in some way, especially if you go out and have a good match, you have a good segment, whatever it may be. That’s something that is extremely rewarding to me and something I do enjoy. I mean, I get the bug every so often, especially if there’s something that I’m really interested in. Like, I was so hyped during that whole Righteous program because I had so much input into that. I had fingerprints on it, too. And it was very enjoyable working with those guys,” Hardy concluded.